Can someone explain to me why I shouldn’t accept any Hadith?

Can someone explain to me why I shouldn’t accept any Hadith? Discussion on QRAC

Prophecy about those who reject Hadith?

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Prophecy about those who reject Hadith?

Due to the increasing amount those ignorant new Muslims rejecting the orders of their Master Rassul-Allah SAWS, I’ll be quoting some hadith : I can also quote the tajreek (chain of narrations from my knowledge to prove it is authentic)The prophet SAWS said:
“Let me not find one of you reclining on his couch, when he hears something regarding me which I have commanded or forbidden and saying: We do not know. What we found in Allah’s Book we have followed.”

Ahmad, Abu Dawood and al-Haakim reported with a saheeh isnaad from al-Miqdaam that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Soon there will be a time when a man will be reclining on his couch, narrating a hadeeth from me, and he will say, ‘Between us and you is the Book of Allaah: what it says is halaal, we take as halaal, and what it says is haraam, we take as haraam.’ But listen! Whatever the Messenger of Allaah forbids is like what Allaah forbids.” (Al-Fath al-Kabeer, 3/438. Al-Tirmidhi reported it with different wording, and said that it is hasan saheeh. Sunan al-Tirmidhi bi Sharh Ibn al-‘Arabi, al-Saawi edn., 10/132).

Al-’Irbaad ibn Saariyah, may Allaah be pleased with him, reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Would any of you think, reclining on his couch, that Allaah would only describe what is forbidden in the Qur’aan? I tell you, by Allaah, that I have warned and commanded and prohibited things that are as important as what is in the Qur’aan, if not more so.” (Reported by Abu Dawud, Kitaab al-Khiraj wa’l-imaarah wa’l-fay’).

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How many people are now like this? isn’t the prophecy true? subhannallah.

This is clear warning, and my question is, are you afraid to speak the truth?

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  you’ll find some idiots like that n here now Allahu must’an.

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• Kaother

  I am a qur’anist and proud. hadeeths are not accurate teachings on the prophet etc., there hadeeths were drawn up years and years after mohammed PBUH died, and are therefore not legitimate rulings.

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  The Qur’an clearly states that it is the best hadith, detailed and complete. Why do you seek to add to the revelation of Allah? Are you saying Allah lied about the Qur’an being complete and fully detailed?You guys always quote hadith to “prove” your views. I’d like to see one of you quote the Qur’an to back up your claims for a change. But it won’t happen — because the Qur’an doesn’t support the hadith. The only authorized secondary sources for religious guidance are the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus — per the Qur’an’s instructions, we are to consult the previous books if we are in doubt about what the Qur’an has revealed.

  As for your “prophecy”, here’s one from the Qur’an for you, regarding people who would reject the truthfulness and completeness of the Qur’an sent from Allah:

  Qur’an 39:23-41
  “God has sent down the best narrative, a Book that is similar, dual. The skins of those who are concerned towards their Lord shiver from it, then their skins and their hearts soften up to the remembrance of God. Such is the guidance of God; He guides with it whoever He wills. And for whoever God misguides, then none can guide him.
  As he who saves his face from the terrible retribution on the Day of Resurrection. And it will be said to the transgressors: “Taste for what you have earned.”
  Those before them have denied, and thus the retribution came to them from where they did not perceive.
  So God made them taste the humiliation in this worldly life, but the retribution in the Hereafter is far greater, if only they knew.
  And We have put forth for the people in this Qur’an from every example, that they may take heed.
  A Qur’an in Arabic, without any crookedness, that they may be righteous.
  God puts forth the example of a man who has partners that dispute with each other, and a man who has given to dealing with only one man. Are they the same? Praise be to God; most of them do not know.
  You will die, and they will die.
  Then, on the Day of Resurrection, you will quarrel at your Lord.
  Who is more wicked than he who lies about God, and denies the truth when it comes to him? Is there not in Hell an abode for the rejecters?
  And those who came with the truth, and believed in it, these are the righteous.
  They shall have what they wish at their Lord. Such is the reward for the good doers.
  So that God may cancel for them the worst that they did, and He may recompense them their reward for the best of what they used to do.
  Is God not enough for His servant? And they frighten you with others besides Him. And whoever God sends astray, then for him there will be no guide.
  And whoever God guides, then there will be none that can mislead him. Is God not Noble, with Vengeance?
  And if you ask them: “Who has created the heavens and the earth?” They will say: “God.” Say: “Do you see what you call on besides God, If God wanted any harm for me, can they alleviate His harm? Or if He wanted a mercy for me, can they hold back his mercy?” Say: “God is sufficient for me; in Him those who trust shall place their trust.”
  Say: “O my people, work according to your way, and I will work. You will come to know.”
  “To whom the humiliating retribution will come, and on whom an eternal retribution will be cast.”
  We have sent down to you the Book for the people with the truth. Then, whoever is guided is guided for himself, and whoever goes astray goes astray to his own loss. And you are not a keeper over them.”

  Source(s):

  The Revelation of Allah, the Qur’an, a complete and detailed book.
• Asfora

  6:50 Say: “I do not say to you that I possess God’s treasures, nor do I know the future, nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I merely follow what is inspired to me.” Say: “Are the blind and the seer the same? Do you not think?”7:188 Say: “I do not possess for myself any benefit or harm, except what God wills. And if I could know the future, then I would have increased my good fortune, and no harm would have come to me. I am but a warner and a bearer of good news to a people who believe.”

  11:31 “Nor do I say to you that I have the treasures of God, nor do I know the future, nor do I say that I am an angel, nor do I say to those whom your eyes look down upon that God will not grant them any good. God is more aware of what is in their souls; in such case I would be among the wicked.”

  Source(s):

  direct from Quran

Coping with being “condemned to hell”

from QRAC (Quranists Reverts and Converts Support Network on Facebook)

Let the accusations roll

It’s certainly toughened me up, since “coming out” as a Quranist ! I’ve been accused of all sorts and been called all sorts! Kafir, munafiq, arrogant, misguided, ignorant, sectarian, satanic, cultist, and even polytheist! Before, I was always very keen to want to be liked and loved by all and I did like to think I would be able to make lots of friends and get along with people – I used to be quite the social butterfly you know, before by conversion to Islam (well getting married and having kids can take its toll and factor in of course!) – but after my conversion to Islam is when I started becoming more self-conscious and worried about offending other people and THEIR beliefs and feeling odd about not fitting in with cultural stuff or making social faux pas etc, and I lost my sense of humour for quite a while too.

When I say toughened up – I don’t think I mean that I’ve become harder in my heart or hold any grudges or have any hatred for anybody, nothing like that – I’m still soft as brush and just as daft!

What I mean is that the insults or nasty comments seem to roll a lot easier off me like water off a duck’s back now seeing as day in day out listening to the same kind of thing it is easier to tune it out and just smile and say Peace be upon you, or WATDIP! (Someone once said “you gotta get through the NO’s to get to the YES’s !!” ) LOL but tbh that was for a pyramid scheme so I don’t know if that will work in this case.

Shirk from a different angle

In all seriousness though the Trust and Faith in Allah as our protector and Sustainer made me so much stronger and more patient alhamdulillah! I think one of the most insulting suggestions to a Traditionalist or any muslim for that matter, quranists included, is to accuse them of Shirk. It is normal to feel a duty to remind people so that they don’t commit shirk, and I used to act upon that. More recently I have come to believe that there are so many situations / conditions / factors involved in the “act of Shirk” that I cannot in all confidence try to make someone else feel as though they might be commiting shirk (for whatever reason – asking for blessings on the Prophet in Salat or by going to ask a scholar for advice etc which is a common attack/accusation about Tradtionalists from Quranist Fundamentalists ) when quite equally, I myself might be committing shirk by letting my own ego take over from humbleness, and not saying maashaaAllah in situations like 18:32-18:42.

Common ground

I would say the key is to remember that the Quran unites us all and we all believe in 1 God . Maybe try to find common ground wherever possible. We all believe in doing good deeds and charity and helping others and acts of worship and living good, honest lives caring for families and parents etc etc I am sure you can think of many more things. I know it is natural, for new converts/reverts to Quranism, with your enthusiasm and the excitement and the emotions of this spiritual roller coaster ride to want to engage in dialogue with people and I think that’s wonderful!

Turn every negative into a positive

If I have learned anything it is that sometimes I would be a little “full on” and not give people room to breathe or chance to think or digest. I am probably doing that now and apologies if I am! But what I mean is, don’t be afraid to keep things simple and maybe just “sow the seeds”. Keep studying Quran and ponder and reflect and refer to it at every appropriate opportunity in discussions – not to attack people with verses to show they are wrong of course, I know you wouldn’t do that, rather to suggest / brainstorm WITH them how they can apply the verse. Turn every negative into a positive, wherever possible inshaaAllah!

Don’t force, lead the horse

And you may like to simply accept that they have their approach to islam and are entitled to it, just as YOU have your approach to islam and are entitled to it. Not everyone has to have the same approach and not everyone has to agree with you and you don’t have to agree with them! They already have the Quran so the onus is on them to read and apply it. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink! They probably think that about you! But that’s fine! Just smile and never give up – Trust in Allah And when they use 59:7 on you just send them the link to the QNet TV episode “responses to Critics- refuting Sheikh Faiz !

See also Multiple Paths to Salvation

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more notes

Pharaoh calls Musa a liar in 28:38; 40:24; and 40:37; and he calls him bewitched in 17:101 Noah was threatened with being stoned in 26:116 . 49:11 says we should not be ridiculing others or calling names. in 40:26 Pharaoh accuses Musa of spreading evil/corruption in the land 40:29 Pharaoh claims he is the one guiding to the right path

Coping with being called “not a proper Muslim”

There seems to be a tendency in Traditional Islam to be called “not a proper Muslim” if you disagree over any minor point of dogmatic doctrine. But to be fair, it is not really whether People think you are a true Muslim that counts. What counts is whether God judges you to be “muslim” – a characteristic that is described in the Quran. I should also say at this point that there are also people within the Quranist community (Quranist Fundamentalists) that will also hold fundamentalist views that THEY are the only true muslims and you are not (again because you don’t agree with their exact interpretation on a certain point) So whilst it is an undesirable thing that people like to do to each other and afaics not sanctioned by the Quran (see 4:94), it does happen and you really shouldn’t take it personally if that happens to you, just try to deal with it in patience and peace and overlook vain talk and ignorance ( 25:63 and 28:55) and debate in the best way (16:125) or agree to disagree in peace (42:15). It is a very common thing for Quranists to be called “not a proper muslim / kafir / munafiq / hadith rejector ” etc at some point. It is supposed to be an insult but the main thing is to have faith in Allah and let Him guide you and be in Awe of Him and not be discouraged or unsettled by the people. InshaaAllah.

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Further reading

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A Quranist’s response the the term “Hadith Rejector”

Another Challenge to the MuslimVlogGuy

This time to this video :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamEQeJoK9k&feature=related

Where he talks about the need for tafseer. I invited him to debate:

Salam MuslimVlogGuy, I’d like to have another video-to-video debate with you on issues regarding Traditionalist Muslim tafaseer and ulum al-quran. Would that be possible?

Challenging the MuslimVlogGuy

Check out his video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEompSydUyg&feature=related

You gotta love his confidence right? Well I issued this invitation to debate him:

Salam MuslimVlogGuy,
Shall we have a video to video debate? I think it can benefit our audiences.  We can do it with Q&A format if you like. Since we are ‘typically easy to refute’, I am sure you will be appreciated by your audiences for doing this. What do you say?

Responses to Critics – responding to Sheikh Feiz

Sheikh Feiz’s video, called ”The Quranists – The Importance of The Path of Rasulullah”  has invited some reactions from the Quranist community. Although Sheikh Feiz received a mixture of ad-hominem attacks and disapproval on his original Youtube video comments, the points Sheikh Feiz makes in his attack on Quranists in his video are  addressed and discussed methodically in these well-evidenced rebuttals. This 3 part video responding to Sheikh Feiz’s claims on the Quranists Network TV Channel (QNet TV) leaves no stone unturned. This blog post is another refutation of SheikhFeiz’s allegations.