Saheeh International or Dhaif International?!

It’s really shameless sometimes how translations play with the meaning of the Quran. Seriously! Check this out from Saheeh International:

Sahih International

And We did certainly give Moses the Torah and followed up after him with messengers. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs and supported him with the Pure Spirit. But is it [not] that every time a messenger came to you, [O Children of Israel], with what your souls did not desire, you were arrogant? And a party [of messengers] you denied and another party you killed.

Not only is the word ‘Torah’ missing from the aya, they didn’t even have the courtest to put the word ‘torah’ in brackets! The word is ‘al-kitab’, correctly translated as ‘the book’ or ‘the writ’.

These guys prefer to call themselves ‘SAHEEH International’ (correct or accurate). I think they are ‘dhaif’ (weak or inaccurate).

6/38 – Nothing have neglected from WHERE ?

Interesting comment in our FB group today about 6/38:

And there is not a creature in the Earth, or a bird that fly’s with its wings, but are nations like you. We did not leave anything out of THE BOOK; then to their Lord they will be gathered

quranist are fond of using this verse to state that the Quran is fully-detailed but I personally cant accept this. Have a look at the context. It’s talking about dabbah (creatures) and tha’ir (birds). Al-kitab here refers to this, the kitab of nature. To me, its a miscontextualised reading to say that al-kitab refers to the Quran.

Al-Kitab and the Tri-Religious Myth

There was a deleted wiki article detailing the view that al-kitab was the same for all the prophet. Although I no longer believe ‘al-kitab’ refers to the same thing throughout the Quran, I do believe all Quranic personalities recieved the same teachings (as per 16/89 and 41/43).

Rizwan Sherazi made a very insightful statement in this thread about the deleted article. He said: Without exploding the Tri-Religous myth, and understanding the time old existence of Al Kitab (46:4) The truest meanings of Quran stay hidden and largely unaccesable

All I can say is HELL YES! I am currently doing a study of ahl al-kitab in my own blog and I have found that liberating this phrase from the Tri-Religious Myth has yielded its universal meaning. The Quran is actually now very universal for me. This is also true for concepts like ‘hadoo’, nasara and ‘yahood’ which sadly have been limited as Jews and Christians. Lets hope someone writes a tract to explode this myth soon. We need the Quran to speak for us, not just the Semitic religions.

 

Scary Attitudes of Emerging QF’ists…

An innocent post in an fb forum today turned some fanatics against a good friend of fine. My friend innocently posted a link to an archived website of Dr Kamal Omar and recieved a baptism of fire that would put the American Govt to shame!

The QF’ists who attacked him were repulsed by the notion that Dr Omar discovered a very quranic notion of al-kitab before their guru. Note that their guru himself didn’t say a word, only his minions did.

This is a very sad situation. These people are quranists but do not use the term. Yet, in their commitment to unity (apparently having a name makes them a sect), they are fanatical about the originality and authenticity of their pedigree. Should this be what quranism is about? Who cares who discovered a concept! We should care that a concept is discovered and we should work on refining it.

Unity….NOT uniformity. Association…NOT sect!

See also: An Analysis of Quranic Fundamentalism