What Would Allah Send Us A Book If….

by Rebecca Marlene Sebastian

Why would the Creator send us a book, call it clear, fully detailed, explanation of all things, the guide for those who believe, the criterion to judge with, and the warning that Rasulullah Muhammad warned by, yet actually the Creator does not want us to study this on our own, nor can we understand it without books of stories that people narrated after the prophets death.

And the Creator did not tell the people to write down Muhammad’s personal doings including toilet habits, sexual escapades and desires, how he ate and put on his shoes etc.. but they just knew it was the right thing to do even though Allah did not command them to and they knew those things were necessary for guidance and so they decided to write them down and include them in their lawmaking process in the name of Deen al Islami, therefore not taking only the laws of the Quran for sharia, but also the rulings of ahadith (some which even ABROGATE Qur’anic ayati)

Why, why, why would the Creator cause so much confusion by telling us that the book is clear and easy to understand (for believers, unbelievers have a hijab over their heart and can not understand it) and telling us that we should not take any other Hakkam (judge/lawmaker) beside Him and it is He who sent down unto us ALL the book FUSALIT (well-expounded, fully detailed, made plain) in suratul An’aam ayat #114 , and yet what this all actually means is that He wants us to just recite it, then go to ahadith and tafsir written by scholars of the past for the guidance?…

Why would my Creator, the Most Merciful, the Compassionate One who assists me when none else can or will, why would my Amazing, Almighty Nourisher trick me?

Wallahi my ilah is so much greater and high above such nonsense, alhamduli llah He did not trick me, or you.. only the shayateen can trick one into believing the Quran is not for mankind as a sufficient guide, but it is for a select few who then get to dictate THEIR PERSONAL ta’weel (interpretation) and we are all supposed to submit to them bcz they are chosen and we are blind, helpless ppl whom Allah does not want to use our aql (reasoning) to read His dhikr (reminder).

Only the shayateen can trick one into thinking the Quran would be insufficient without Bukhari and co. It is the shayateen of jin and ins who invent falsehood and make themselves enemies of the prophets, by leading other away from the path of Allah and holding up the path as a ridiculous thing. (See Quran 6:112)

Ya Allah my Kind Compassionate Rabb, for all those who have submitted to you, and have believed in your revelations and your angels and messengers and those who do truly fear And remember the last day and the reckoning, plz guide us nearer to the truth and do not let our feet slip after having been guided. Whosoever You guide, none can lead astray, and for the one You withhold guidance, indeed, he shall find no helper beside you. You alone we serve, and You alone we turn to for aid.

Salamun alaikm ya muslimeen

Be Careful Whom You’re Following!

By Rebecca Marlene Sebastian

Be careful who you’re following.

Don’t ever trick yourself into thinking that the blame and accountability for following misguided teachings and upholding misguided doctrines, some of which may even propagate lies and wickedness in the name of Allah and His messengers, will not at all be upon you, but only upon your teacher. Have no doubt that you will be questioned as to why you followed what you followed and invited others to follow, claiming it to be the truth, while in fact you were only guessing. Research the origins of their teachings and seek seek into the truthfulness of their doctrines as best as you can.

Do not believe their subliminal indoctrinating techniques, such as when they tell you that you are too ignorant and have no right to question the teachings of their predecessors who invented their doctrines. Do not fear their threats of violence and condemnation for standing up to prove their teachings to be falsehood, but fear God alone. All messengers were also given the same threatening responses from the hypocrites around them when they challenged their firmly rooted doctrines and their leaders.

For some people this is not news and may not seem like a crucial issue, but I swear by Allah, I have actually had a “muslim” tell me face to face that he truly believed if he was following misguided teachings in the name of Islam that he wouldn’t have any blame for the wrong teachings he followed and the one who spread the falsehood would only be held accountable! To me, that statement is near the top of the ignorance ladder, and I was shocked to hear a Muslim of any sect say such a thing, even while they carelessly condemn Jews, Christians, and everyone else for mixing truth with falsehood. That is obviously equal to saying that we have no responsibility and accountability for how we use the senses and rationale that Allah has instilled in us, which is an extremely misguided notion and blatantly against the teachings of the Quran.

17:36 And follow not that of which you have not the knowledge; surely the hearing and the sight and the heart, all of these, shall be questioned about that.

6:81 And how should I fear what you have set up (with Him), while you do not fear that you have set up with Allah that for which He has not sent down to you any authority; which then of the two parties is surer of security, if you know?

6:116 And if you obey most of those in the earth, they will lead you astray from Allah’s way; they follow but conjecture and they only lie.

33:67 And they shall say: O our Lord! surely we obeyed our leaders and our great men, so they led us astray from the path;

9:31 They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to serve one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him

9:34 O you who believe, indeed many of the scholars and the monks devour the wealth of people unjustly and avert [them] from the way of Allah . And those who hoard gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah – give them tidings of a painful punishment.

(6:114) Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge? And it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail

(13:11) Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves.

(59:18) And let every soul look to what it has put forth for tomorrow – and be careful of (your duty to) Allah . Indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do.


Define scholar. Usually when someone says “scholar” to me in this field, they usually mean the one who has been taught Traditional Islam and has studied at a name brand academy and has a certificate to prove it. I don’t believe there are “official” scholars in Quranism – sure, there are those who have studied Quran more than others and who have read the works of others who have studied the Quran in great depth but that does not mean they have the all the answers or that the ones who have studied less don’t have a very good understanding of the overall message of islam as described by the Quran. But anyway the ones who talk against one another will usually have the attitude of “My school of thought is right (or my opinion is right) and the others are wrong” which doesn’t seem very quranic to me (considering how the Quran talks of multiple paths). To me the Quran is shareware, public domain. No-one has a monopoly on it and no-one can say they know more about the meaning of it than anyone else, as we are all in the same boat. What I do think is encouraging is that there are projects that people can get involved in without having to prove your academic ability – in the Quranists Network there are no limits on who can contribute to theological, ideological and philosophical discussions about the Quran and islam!

Back to scholars – There is a difference between being able to reference facts and words and knowing where to find the themes, concepts and subjects in the Quran, and even then there will be verses that are subjective. When you adopt the premise that the Quran is to be read and understood on a personal basis, anyone else’s interpretation can either assist or cloud your OWN judgement about what the text is saying to YOU the reader. What I like is when people who have learned and studied and have tried to be unbiased and open minded without shutting out the possibility that the meanings are layered, share their views and knowledge and pass it on with the unwritten understanding that what they are saying is also just their own understanding and is of no more or less importance and correctness than anyone else’s take on things.

That is not to say that if you consider yourself to be a scholar (however you define it), that it is a negative thing, of course not – Reading, studying, learning, gathering knowledge, processing and reflecting are encouraged by the Quran afaics so there is no reason why each quranist could not be considered a scholar in their own right, if they want, but never that one is more entitled to be a scholar than the other nor that knowledge is power or control over others.

Intellectual equality is not the same as spiritual equality. By that I mean you could know everything there is to know about The Quran, and everything about Traditionalism and Quranism and all the other religions, doctrines, history, facts and theories etc. But if it is purely knowledge in the sense of facts committed to memory without a connection of how it affects you spiritually and being able to apply that knowledge and nourish your soul from it, and be motivated from within your heart to help others and benefit society with it, then it will all just be superficial. I imagine that there are people do become “scholars” (in the Trad. sense) for the fame and status and the power and the money (not always because I am equally certain that there are genuine people out there in the Trad. field who don’t desire the money/power/fame combo) and others who either claim to be a scholar or even do NOT claim to be a scholar but have become knowledgeable solely due to their own natural journey of curiosity, thirst for knowledge and hunger for the Truth.

Coping with being “condemned to hell”

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Let the accusations roll

It’s certainly toughened me up, since “coming out” as a Quranist ! 🙂 I’ve been accused of all sorts and been called all sorts! Kafir, munafiq, arrogant, misguided, ignorant, sectarian, satanic, cultist, and even polytheist! Before, I was always very keen to want to be liked and loved by all and I did like to think I would be able to make lots of friends and get along with people – I used to be quite the social butterfly you know, before by conversion to Islam (well getting married and having kids can take its toll and factor in of course!) – but after my conversion to Islam is when I started becoming more self-conscious and worried about offending other people and THEIR beliefs and feeling odd about not fitting in with cultural stuff or making social faux pas etc, and I lost my sense of humour for quite a while too. 😦

When I say toughened up – I don’t think I mean that I’ve become harder in my heart or hold any grudges or have any hatred for anybody, nothing like that – I’m still soft as brush and just as daft! 🙂

What I mean is that the insults or nasty comments seem to roll a lot easier off me like water off a duck’s back now seeing as day in day out listening to the same kind of thing it is easier to tune it out and just smile and say Peace be upon you, or WATDIP! (Someone once said “you gotta get through the NO’s to get to the YES’s !!” ) LOL but tbh that was for a pyramid scheme so I don’t know if that will work in this case. 😛

Shirk from a different angle

In all seriousness though the Trust and Faith in Allah as our protector and Sustainer made me so much stronger and more patient alhamdulillah! I think one of the most insulting suggestions to a Traditionalist or any muslim for that matter, quranists included, is to accuse them of Shirk. It is normal to feel a duty to remind people so that they don’t commit shirk, and I used to act upon that. More recently I have come to believe that there are so many situations / conditions / factors involved in the “act of Shirk” that I cannot in all confidence try to make someone else feel as though they might be commiting shirk (for whatever reason – asking for blessings on the Prophet in Salat or by going to ask a scholar for advice etc which is a common attack/accusation about Tradtionalists from Quranist Fundamentalists ) when quite equally, I myself might be committing shirk by letting my own ego take over from humbleness, and not saying maashaaAllah in situations like 18:32-18:42.

Common ground

I would say the key is to remember that the Quran unites us all and we all believe in 1 God . Maybe try to find common ground wherever possible. We all believe in doing good deeds and charity and helping others and acts of worship and living good, honest lives caring for families and parents etc etc I am sure you can think of many more things. I know it is natural, for new converts/reverts to Quranism, with your enthusiasm and the excitement and the emotions of this spiritual roller coaster ride to want to engage in dialogue with people and I think that’s wonderful!

Turn every negative into a positive

If I have learned anything it is that sometimes I would be a little “full on” and not give people room to breathe or chance to think or digest. I am probably doing that now and apologies if I am! But what I mean is, don’t be afraid to keep things simple and maybe just “sow the seeds”. Keep studying Quran and ponder and reflect and refer to it at every appropriate opportunity in discussions – not to attack people with verses to show they are wrong of course, I know you wouldn’t do that, rather to suggest / brainstorm WITH them how they can apply the verse. Turn every negative into a positive, wherever possible inshaaAllah!

Don’t force, lead the horse

And you may like to simply accept that they have their approach to islam and are entitled to it, just as YOU have your approach to islam and are entitled to it. Not everyone has to have the same approach and not everyone has to agree with you and you don’t have to agree with them! They already have the Quran so the onus is on them to read and apply it. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink! They probably think that about you! 🙂 But that’s fine! Just smile and never give up – Trust in Allah 🙂 And when they use 59:7 on you just send them the link to the QNet TV episode “responses to Critics- refuting Sheikh Faiz !

See also Multiple Paths to Salvation

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more notes

Pharaoh calls Musa a liar in 28:38; 40:24; and 40:37; and he calls him bewitched in 17:101 Noah was threatened with being stoned in 26:116 . 49:11 says we should not be ridiculing others or calling names. in 40:26 Pharaoh accuses Musa of spreading evil/corruption in the land 40:29 Pharaoh claims he is the one guiding to the right path

Questioning the Quranist Vision

I was recently asked whether it was really necessary for Quranism to be recognised as a valid form of Islam (from the Quranist Vision on Quranists.net). It is great to have people interested and taking the time to think about these things and question everything! I applaud this attitude. Please keep the questions coming! Thanks for sending in this question.

“Salaam Alaykum Asfora Safarina. There is something awkward sounding (to me) in this paragraph:

“Our secondary vision is to have Quranism recognised as a legitimate form of Islam. At present, Quranism is seen as either heretical or worse still, totally irrelevant to Islamic discourse. ”

Is it necessary, truthfully, that one be “recognized” as a “form” of something, outside of the knowledge one already has about his/her beliefs? Does it matter, in *truth,* what others think of you or anyone else, if what you do is honest and sincere, and harming no one? Why would you seek validation (because it *sounds* like that is the “vision”) from people who would be so far removed from your belief system as to accuse you of being heretical–because you follow the Qur’an (solely)? Is it not also, in some way, taking steps forward on that slippery slope of establishing a ‘sect’, simply by hoping/wishing/envisaging that someone or group or entity outside legitimizes what you believe? Does it make you (or anyone for that matter) stronger in your belief/faith by gaining their “acceptance.”? “

My response: Walaikum salam – for me it makes no difference whether ppl accept my beliefs as heretical or not. Alhamdulillah I don’t live in a country ruled by man made “Shariah” law. I believe everyone should have the same privilege or should I say the same RIGHT. I believe if there are ppl who are living in fear that they must say they believe something out of force / oppression in order to spare their lives, then this is tantamount the to situation that Firawn had with his people. See 7:123 and 10:83. The prophetic example of Musa shows that he was sent to abolish this practice. I believe we were given those examples in the Quran for a reason – to learn, to acknowledge and understand and then put the wisdom into action, not to let such valuable guidance fall by the wayside. If, from the work we are doing at Quranists.net we can encourage people, whatever their approach is, to have respect for other people’s beliefs and interpretations and to discourage fundmentalist or extremist views, and promote a more quranic attitude of pluralisticism, acceptance and tolerance, then I would consider it a contribution to the betterment of society, inshaaAllah.

Coping with being called “not a proper Muslim”

There seems to be a tendency in Traditional Islam to be called “not a proper Muslim” if you disagree over any minor point of dogmatic doctrine. But to be fair, it is not really whether People think you are a true Muslim that counts. What counts is whether God judges you to be “muslim” – a characteristic that is described in the Quran. I should also say at this point that there are also people within the Quranist community (Quranist Fundamentalists) that will also hold fundamentalist views that THEY are the only true muslims and you are not (again because you don’t agree with their exact interpretation on a certain point) So whilst it is an undesirable thing that people like to do to each other and afaics not sanctioned by the Quran (see 4:94), it does happen and you really shouldn’t take it personally if that happens to you, just try to deal with it in patience and peace and overlook vain talk and ignorance ( 25:63 and 28:55) and debate in the best way (16:125) or agree to disagree in peace (42:15). It is a very common thing for Quranists to be called “not a proper muslim / kafir / munafiq / hadith rejector ” etc at some point. It is supposed to be an insult but the main thing is to have faith in Allah and let Him guide you and be in Awe of Him and not be discouraged or unsettled by the people. InshaaAllah.

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Further reading

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A Quranist’s response the the term “Hadith Rejector”

My response to the term ‘Just Muslim’

We had an interesting discussion thanks to Asfora’s repost of her essay ‘Submitters and Quranists’ on Quranology Discussions where the term ‘just muslim without any sects’ came up. Here is my opinion on that along with a simile i devised:

 ‎’Just muslim’ is an untenable term anyway. It’s equivalent of saying ‘im just a computer user’ when asked ‘which operating system do you use’. The fact is, one can only access a pc’s facilities with an operating system, just as one can only access the universal principles of islam through a methodology. Quranists acknowledge that there are in fact other access methods but feel that their operating system is the most efficient. Submitters/19ers/Rashadite​s however feel that thier operating system is IT, anyone who rejects it are simply not computer users at all.

The deceptive “Just Muslim” label