THIS WEEK’S JUMMAH ANNOUNCEMENT


Salaam Aleykum
Thanks to Tatiana for this reminder:
REMINDER
******THIS WEEKS JUMMAH ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!******
InshAllah we will continue with two sessions in Jummah.
First session will be at 10:30 AM GMT on FRIDAY November 4th
Second session will be at 9PM GMT on Saturday November 5th
Presenter: Tatiana — Topic: “Introduction to Taqlid” and “Confidence in guidance from Allah swa.”
Agenda for Friday
>10:15AM GMT – (15 minutes before the presentation starts) I will open the floor to recitation of the Quran in Arabic and English.
>10:30AM GMT – 10:45 GMT (15 Min) PRESENTATION
>10:45 – 11:15 AM (25 Min) Open floor for questions and discussion. After this point, I will have to leave to get ready for Work on Friday.
SATURDAY will follow the same schedule (length wise), but from between the hours of 8:45PM GMT to 10:00 PM GMT (or longer as needed)…
Go to this link: http://www.facebook.com/groups/QuranistsJummah/doc/272296066148772/ and read the doc for instructions on how to log in to Paltalk – there is a room Password.
The PalTalk express chat is here: sites.google.com/site/sanctuarymosque/jummah/chat

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What Quran means and how we can apply it in our lives


this one is specific for tomorrow’s jummah

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31518815/Quran%20Definition.pdf

 

Quran Based Jummah on FaceBook (group)

Quranists Jummah on Youtube

 

 

Considering the Quran Alone and Quranism terms


I saw the awkward term “Quran-Alone-ism” used the other day, followed by “(for lack of a better term)”.

When I need to use the term “Quran Alone-ism” or “Quran Alone-ness”, I simply use the term Quranism. It is pretty much the same thing.

Quranism is the belief that the Quran is the sole divine source of islam. Quranists are muslims who follow Quranism.

I pondered though, due to my over-active mind, whether there is any difference between being a Quran Alone muslim and a Quranist muslim.

The term “Quran Alone” can be taken to varying degrees of pedantry.

Red Carpet example
If you interpret it to mean purely Quran Alone then what you will have is a belief system where ALL outside origins of guidance are abandoned and taken to be unfactual. For example if I tell you my carpet is red but you do not find it stated specifically in the Quran, then this could be turned down as bogus pursuant to the belief that the only genuine data comes directly from the Quran.

Now of course this is a unreasonable example of taking the meaning of words to their extreme and absolute limit.

The following are some of the different types of Quran Alone-ness (Quranism)

A. Some who claim to follow the Quran Alone for their set of beliefs tend to follow what is in reality “Translations of the Quran Alone”

This could be one certain translation by a favored translator or a more fair attitude where a variety of Quran translations are studied side by side.

B. Some who declare to follow the Quran alone don’t “label” themselves as “Quran Alone muslims” or “Quranist muslims”, choosing to point out that they are simply muslims. This may be either due to concerns that giving a descriptive term to their belief that the Quran has the sole authority might insinuate they had become part of a sect OR due to present day Sunni Islam (usually referred to by those Muslims as “Mainstream” Islam*) critical of the Quranist view, leading usually to excommunication of those who convert from the Mainstream view to the Quranist view. Some of these Quran Alone muslims do not assert to ignore all Hadiths, merely those that oppose the Quran. This can enable more integration into the “cultural” aspect of Islam, where some translations of Quranic verses can be employed to justify some of the cultural or traditional interpretations of Islam. For a convert to Islam who does not have any experience of the cultural/traditional associations of Islam it can be a challenging job to try to make these associations using the Quran alone.

* Quranists refer to Mainstream muslims as “Traditionalists” due to “Mainstream” being defined as such only due to majority numbers. If Quranism (the belief that the Quran is the sole source of islam) became the belief held by the majority of Muslims then the term “Mainstream” would become confusable.

C. Some Quran Alone muslims – typically self proclaimed Quranists, (the ones who do accept the usage of the term as a functional aid to communication) usually fixate on trying to discover the true meanings of the original Arabic with a view to understanding the Quran as a whole by not taking ayats out of context. Some operate a methodology of investigating the Quran into detail, considering the words used with the belief that “the Quran explains the Quran”. Their belief is that every single word of the original Arabic Quran is there to educate, give examples and parables and make the Quran clear; THE Divine Guidance. Usually for this way of thinking, a very open mind unhampered by all previous pre-conceptions or projections from the Traditionalist view is necessary. Context, Arabic vocabulary and grammar all have a huge role in attempting this kind of study which consequently results in “evolving beliefs” as the student takes on his individual journey of enlightenment with a deeply personal engagement with the text. This kind of investigation is done by some Quranists using literally the Quran alone or with the assistance of study tools such as Classical Arabic dictionaries, Quran Concordances and online Quran databases. It could be argued whether these so-called tools are classed as Non-Quranic Sources (NQS) or simply tools or study aids.

Usually, all “Quran Aloners”, “Quran Alone muslims”, “Quranic muslims” and “Quranists” are labelled indiscriminately as “Hadith Rejectors” (see Quranist’s response to this term) by the ones who dispute the concept that the Quran can be comprehended without the acceptance of the Sahih Hadith compilations. Rejection of Hadith can mean rejecting the Authority of the Hadith or the Authenticity of it. In Quranist terms, to reject the Authority of a hadith means to acknowledge that the Quran has not mentioned this piece of information. To reject the Authenticity of a hadith means a belief that the information is simply not true.

Read more / see the original article at http://www.quranists.net/2011/05/16/quran-alone-ism-and-quranism/

 

Quran Based Islam on Quranists.net

Three or Five prayers in the Quran?


A good question in QRAC

Three or Five prayers in the Qur’an? Tell me what you all think and why. How many prayers do you observe, what times, and where does the Qur’an support your thought? Please be polite to each other because this is a touchy and personal subject. Thanks!

my reply:

What does Salat mean?

In Traditional Islam “Salat” means the Ritual Prayer which I am guessing most ppl here are familiar with – apologies if that is not the case.

In Quranism, some Quranists agree that “Salat” means ritual prayer. The ritual prayer may look similar but certain speech parts may be omitted from this, such as the “Tashahhud” . Some ppl question the number of Rakats and the strict sequence of standing bowing and prostrations.

Other Quranists believe that Salat means something else – maybe their own personal interpretation based on how the concept of Salat is described in context in the Quran and how the Quranic Arabic uses the verbs and nouns of words coming from the root of “Salat”. There are neverending discussions about this in QD and people are researching and contributing to discussions about it all the time.

The salats mention by name in the Quran are Salat al Fajr, and Salat al Isha, Which are commonly taken to mean Dawn Prayer and Isha Prayer or Dawn Salat and Isha Salat. Some do not even take Fajr to mean Dawn as a time of day – more of a metaphorical interpretation based on what the root word of the FAJR suggests. Each question raises new questions. It can be as in depth or as easy as you want, really! The easy way is to let someone else interpret for you!

There is also a Salat al wusta mentioned – again some people take this to be a time of day (wusta being often translated as the Middle Prayer) and others take it in a more metaphorical sense (“the prayer from the midmost of your soul” for example) or the “salat from within” .

24:58 ṣalati l-fajri,
24:58 ṣalati l-ʿishāi.

2:238 wal-ṣalati l-wus’ṭā,

Times of day in Quran: http://search.quranaddict.co.uk/search/label/timings

Hope that helps, inshaaAllah. Not my intention to confuse or mislead – we all should verify everything ourselves. (see 17:36)

Here is the link to QD for more indepth discussions about Salat http://www.facebook.com/groups/quranology/

This link is very interesting: http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/disproved_traditional_salat.htm

Some Dua’s:
https://quranistvoices.wordpress.com/tag/dua/

When something gets complicated it’s probably because we are trying too hard! The answer is probably really obvious, it’s just that we can’t see for looking! It does not help that the traditions and hadiths have clouded our judgement and perceptions.

Update: This page is a list of different Quranist’s perspectives / articles about Salat

My thoughts on “What is Quranism?”


I think Quranism is an approach. All Traditionalist Muslims believe the Quran is the Word of God and so do Quranist Muslims. Everyone has some kind of approach. Either they get seek guidance from imams in the mosque or parents / friends / relatives / sheikhs on TV or self study using religious texts / asking online scholars / reading academic books on Fiqh etc or even for some, literally “the Quran Alone”. I am not a Traditionalist Muslim or a (literal) “Quran Alone Muslim” . I am a Quranist Muslim in that I believe the Quran is the sole divine source of islam/deen/guidance. So although I believe there is nothing wrong with asking other people for their views (in fact I do this a lot) I believe the only real guidance comes directly from Allah through His words in the Quran. The problem is that I believe the meanings of some of the Arabic words and the meanings may have become distorted over time. So trying to uncover the real, original meaning is what I’m hoping to get closer to, inshaaAllah. I like to think that others with the same goal can share info and notes by having a central point to exchange various research and collaborations. That is for the more detailed aspects but overall the general overall message seems fairly obvious without needing to complicate matters especially not with having hadiths, fatwas and man made shariah laws some of which undermine the real message. Quranism may also be considered by reverts and converts to Islam who are genuinely puzzled/confused/struggling with the pressure of the culture shock of the cultural Traditional Islam imposed in areas where their mosques are teaching strict sectarian opinions without even allowing room for choice of school of thought – the “My Way or the Highway” attitude. I see Quranism as the answer to islamofascism.

QRAC on FaceBook – Quranists Reverts and Converts Support Network

Excellent Vid by Dr Khalid Zaheer


About how faith is blind. Many thanks to Muaaz for sharing this video on Quranology Discussions.

Adding to Mohammad Shaikhs Video on 16/44


Traditionalist Muslims are very fond of using 16/44 claiming that ‘that you make clear’ (litubayyina) shows that we must follow hadith. Mr Shaikh clears up this misconception in his video.  I also suggested in his IIPC group to use 16/64 to answer them.