Peace centres


A discussion about Peace Centres – thread on QRAC

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Are 19er submitters Quranists?


A discussion about the term Quranists and how the term is used – thread on QRAC

Important clarification


Just to clear up any misunderstandings! In a previous thread, the name RK was mentioned, and other terms associated with this person. RK is short for Rashad Khalifa, who claimed to be a Messenger of God and claimed that 2 verses should be removed from the Quran.

Followers of this person’s teachings are sometimes referred to (somewhat derog.) as Khalifites. The ones who do follow his teachings and believe him to be a Messenger of God sometimes call themselves “Submitters”. There is a group called Submitters International. Just to make it very clear – This group QRAC and the other facebook groups within the  Quranists Network are NOT affiliated with RK’s teachings.

In my experience, the ones who follow RK’s teachings call themselves “Submitters” and reject 2 verses of the Quran and believe in a mathematical code based on the number 19. To be fair, some people who do not call themselves “Submitters” or anything other than “simply Muslim” or “just Muslim” may use the same terminology, phrases and attitude as seen on the “submission” site, but still accept the whole Quran without rejecting 2 verses. Some even believe in the 19 code without rejecting 2 verses. Some people have never heard of RK but pick up the fundamentalist attitude from other sites/groups. Not to forget there are also people who call themselves “Submitters” but who do not follow RK’s teachings – they only follow the Quran (or an interpretation of the Quran).

Before the use of the term “Quranism” anyone googling for “Quran Alone” “God Alone” or “Quran Only” type articles may have stumbled across submission.org or masjidtuscon which promotes RK’s teachings, which is where I personally believe the Fundamentalist Mentality is most at risk of setting in, especially if people rely on that 1 translation by RK which has numerous inconsistencies/errors.

Each person is unique and has the right to find out what the Quran’s Guidance is and whether they choose RK’s teachings (or anyone else’s!) over what the Quran actually conveys  in context and with a coherent understanding. Alhamdulillah, many students of the Quran have the opportunity to use the study tools available online, which means that we have access to study the Quran and the Arabic words used instead of relying on translations, inshaaAllah, even if we don’t speak/read Arabic to start with. SubhanAllah! Now THAT is amazing! 🙂  That is just my own humble opinion.

Usually the ones labelled as RK followers are not actually followers of RK especially once they find out he taught the rejection of 2 verses of the Quran. Remember everyone starts somewhere and each person’s “journey” is different and filled with their own tests.  I actually found a lot of direct references to the Quranic verses on submission.org shortly after I converted to Traditional Islam! And I must say I am glad I found those verse references because I looked them up for myself and  came to realise how awesome the Quran is from investigating what I saw. This was a crucial point for me after I converted because I was hearing about all these terms like “hadith” and “sunnah” and “weak” and “strong” and “wajib” and “makrooh” and “fardh” and all the other confusing cultural/traditonal practises that converts are taught as a matter of course.  I had to learn how to look up verses for myself! No one taught me that!  <— we are talking major newbie here!!

Many a night did I spend with highlighter sticky tabs and cross referencing verses to examine the notion that the Quran has the sole authority. It was part of a very beautiful journey for me! I’m grateful for all my stepping stones, alhamdulillah wa shukr!! And I am still learning, we all are – that is humbling in itself. 🙂  So let’s try to keep an open mind, keep learning, keep reading Quran, comparing translations for incompatibilities/inconsistencies/errors,  studying, investigating, praying for guidance, mercy, forgiveness, patience and strength and doing good deeds and helping each other to make progress and being awesome to each other! InshaaAllah! 🙂

Asfora

PS: Just in case I didn’t make it clear. I do not consider myself a follower of RK. I am a Quranist.

Further reading :

https://quranistvoices.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/a-collection-of-quranist-voices/

http://www.quranists.net/2011/04/16/submitters-and-quranists/http://www.quranists.net/2011/05/16/quran-alone-ism-and-quranism/

http://www.quranists.net/2011/04/13/an-analysis-of-quranic-fundamentalism/

http://www.quranists.net/2011/05/21/the-muslim-label-%E2%80%93-having-your-cake-and-eating-it-too/

Quranists Network Conference Announcement 2011


Site News / Notices / Updates (last updated 1st Dec 2011)

Quranists Network Conference Announcement

Quranists Network Conference Winter 2011

Saturday 17th December 2011
Abrar House (45 Crawford Place, Off Edgeware Rd, London, W1H 4LP)
3.30-7.30 pm
Full details including Conference Schedule <– click here

Please confirm your attendance (as places are limited) or ask any questions by emailing to asfora@quranists.net or simply click confirm attendance at Quranists Network Winter Conference 2011and fill in the form which will send Asfora an email for you!

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Quran Based Jummah / Quranists Jummah


25th November 2011
Jummah
Friday surah recitation
Tomorrow at 7am EST – 12pm GMT
Paltalk room: Quran Based Gathering

Saturday 26th Nov surah recitation
The time is 4pm EST -9pm GMT
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Quran Based Jummah – Friday Surah Recitation


18th November 2011
Jummah
Friday surah recitation
Tomorrow at 7am EST – 12pm GMT
Paltalk room: Quran Based Gathering

Saturday surah recitation
The time is 4pm EST -9pm GMT
Paltalk room: Quran Based Gathering

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This room is open to anyone who sincerely journeys towards peace, truth, and compassion.

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Fridays:
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THIS WEEK’S JUMMAH ANNOUNCEMENT


Salaam Aleykum
Thanks to Tatiana for this reminder:
REMINDER
******THIS WEEKS JUMMAH ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!******
InshAllah we will continue with two sessions in Jummah.
First session will be at 10:30 AM GMT on FRIDAY November 4th
Second session will be at 9PM GMT on Saturday November 5th
Presenter: Tatiana — Topic: “Introduction to Taqlid” and “Confidence in guidance from Allah swa.”
Agenda for Friday
>10:15AM GMT – (15 minutes before the presentation starts) I will open the floor to recitation of the Quran in Arabic and English.
>10:30AM GMT – 10:45 GMT (15 Min) PRESENTATION
>10:45 – 11:15 AM (25 Min) Open floor for questions and discussion. After this point, I will have to leave to get ready for Work on Friday.
SATURDAY will follow the same schedule (length wise), but from between the hours of 8:45PM GMT to 10:00 PM GMT (or longer as needed)…
Go to this link: http://www.facebook.com/groups/QuranistsJummah/doc/272296066148772/ and read the doc for instructions on how to log in to Paltalk – there is a room Password.
The PalTalk express chat is here: sites.google.com/site/sanctuarymosque/jummah/chat