Adding words in brackets


Adding words in brackets thread on QRAC

Nice Saying By Charles Lohman


in Quranology Discussions: Understanding the Quran THROUGH Islamic Traditionalism is NO different than understanding the Quran AGAINST Islamic Traditionalism.

I agree. We shouldn’t be pro or against anything we try to understand the Quran. Just let the Quran speak. However, we should take care that it is the Quran which is actually speaking, not Islamic Traditionalism using the voice of the Quran.

80 things to understand one verse ?!


Part of my research thesis is to understand how Traditionalist Muslims approach the Quran. Of course Sunni Islam has a very sophisticated method. They call this method ‘3ulum al-quran’ (sciences of the Quran). They amount to 80 sub fields of study! So to understand one verse you need to knw 80 things! Of course these things are instrinsically unknowable (one of them is the Prophet’s MOOD for god’s sake) . This is how they block people from studying the Quran.

Answer to the Variant Readings Myth


Here is a question on Yahoo Answers about the ‘variant readings of the Quran.’ My answer is below:

The myth of the variant recitals come from hadith which have helped to dilute the confidence Muslims have in the Quran. It is on equal footing with other ‘sciences of the Quran’ such as:
1. Makkan and Medinan Verses
2. The reasons for revelation (Asbabun Nuzool)
3. The science of abrogation (for which there isn’t any actual figure – just disagreements).

The important thing to note is what Quran itself says about such things – which is absolutely nothing. Rather, what Allah did was to use the concept of ‘dhikr’. What does ‘dhikr’ mean? Linguistically it means something prominent but also constantly recited. The identity of the Quran is described as such:

And We did not teach him poetry, nor is it befitting for him. It is not but a dhikr and a clear Qur’an (quranun mubeen) (36/69)

We must emphasise that ‘mubeen’ is the quality of being clear, not the quality of clarifying which is ‘bayyin’ (see 10/15 , ayaatun bayyinat). What is ‘quranun mubeen’? To the world at large and to academia , it is what the Traditional Muslims call the Hafs recension. Most of us don’t know anything else and the authentication of these things come from hadith.

One can even see two of the many the effects of this acceptance in Rosy Pearl’s statements:

1. Every Muslim should believe in every Authentic Recitation Narration.
There are many… But 20 of them are Mutawatir. Therefore there is NO difference of opinion on these 20, and anyone who disbelieves in ONE… has Disbelieved on what was revealed upon Mohammed saw,

My answer: What Rosy didn’t tell you is that there is ABSOLUTELY NO AGREEMENT about the ‘7 dialects hadith’. No one even knows what it means. Have a read of Abu Ammar Yasir Qadhi’s ‘Introduction to the Sciences of the Quran’

2. As for examples of how 2 narrations could give you a better understanding of the Quran..
When Allah swt said.. “ith Jaa2akum Fasiqun Binaba2in Fatabayanu” OR “Fatathabbatu”
Now Tathabatu has almost the same meaning as Tabayanu.. But with additional criteria..
It means.. Not only do you have to verify source.. You have to stand still. Not act upon anything until you are certain..

My answer: The careless with the Quran’s language is astounding! Did God, the author of the Quran, not know Arabic well enough? This is simply an attempt to play with the Quran’s language to gain authority in reading.

Remember these facts:
a. The Quran mentions that its in the clear arabic language (16/103). No dialects were mentioned at all.
b. The Arabic of the Quran makes it language distinct/fussilat (41/44). So God knew exactly what word goes where, even if Muslims think they know better.

Stick to the clear quran, its is easily found in the world.

Couldn’t Allah just say….


Have a look at this discussion on our FB group. This is quite typical of the Traditional Muslim to quote half a verse and claim this is what Allah commanded us to do. To take what the messenger gave (59/7). Context tells us otherwise. Here we need to ask though, couldn’t Allah simply just say ‘The Prophet explains Quran through his hadith. Follow them’.

The Muslim’s True Sentiment About the Quran


It is perhaps the height of irony that when you tell a Muslim that you follow only the Quran, they sometimes look at you with scorn and derision. You are not telling them that you’re following Satan but it may as well be something like that, for all the negative reactions which I’ve seen.

For all the slogans Muslims cry about the Quran, how it is an imcomparable miracle of the Prophet till judgement day, the Quran is woefully inadequate for them. They quote at the most half verses, almost never full verses, let alone whole passages or chapters. From these half quotes, they will produce pages upon pages of explanation which have little or nothing to do with the half-verse they quoted. This is the true Muslim sentiment about the Quran.

This is what needs to change. The Quran must be allowed to speak freely and to define Islam in total. This is what Quranists seek to do.