The Enemy of My Enemy is a quranist..


Being a Quranist is sometimes like playing war in pre 1945 Europe. You gang up with France to whack Italy, then launch an Armada with Spain to whack England then join all the others to whack the Germans…

There are 16 kinds of quranism at present. 16 types of approaches towards the Quran! This is due to the fact that we allow free thinking and a democratic approach to the book. But it does lead to many wierd scenarios..

I was bickering with ‘A’ about the existence of rituals in islam (i dont believe there are). That wasn’t so friendly so I was a little surprised when ‘A’ joined me in the debate against ‘B’ and ‘C’, who believe that RK was the messenger of the covenant.

But that’s how things are with quranists, we have a buffet of views which are so radically different that it will surprise us who we debate with…and who we debate alongside. The key is to remember that we are here to PROTECT the democracy of reading…everyone has a right to read and think!

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Yahoo Answers – Why are Quranists Hated So Much


From here. Here are the question and my answer:

So… if all what they are doing is supported by the Quran (which the Hadith contradicts, btw), why are they hated by mainstream Muslims?

The majority of the Muslims in the world have no clue who the Quranists ARE, let alone hate them. Quranists tend to be hated by the fundamentalist clergy of Traditional Islam (so not even all Traditionalist clergymen). They are hated for the following reason: they challenge the authoritarian structure which makes Traditional Islam.

Traditional Islam preaches that its scholars are the inheritors of the Prophets and so the scholars have the authority to determine what islam is and what it says about certain issues. Quranists challenge that notion and not only that, they hope to reconstruct Islam along Quranic lines. They see that Islam has been transformed beyond recognition into something completely the opposite of the Quran.

This is why they are hated.

Bukhari’s Allah checkmates women.


Sometimes I wonder at the subconscious implications of certain hadith. While other hadith exalt women (paradise lies under the feet of mothers) hadith such as these totally leaves women with no room to escape:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.” 

Can you imagine a more vile portrayal of women?! Not easy, I must say. Lets consider this hadith for a minute:
1. Who ordained that women should have periods? Allah.
2. Who ordained that women cant pray or fast during periods? Allah
3. Who then said its a deficiency of their religion? ALLAH.

Oh my God (no pun intended!) , what kind of Allah is this?! And we havent even started on the ‘deficiency’ in intelligence yet.

The long reach of the hadithist


Quranists oppose the fact that Islam has been changed with the institutionalisation of hadith. However, lets not forget one thing. Merely removing hadith from our thoughts will not help us much if when reading Quran, we are still reading what is essentially hadith-based translations.

Quranic Fundamentalists tend to do this a lot (strangely, I must say, quranic fundamentalism seems to be inextricably linked with uncritical acceptance of translations). It’s sad, really. They oppose the use of hadith yet inadvertently use it themselves.

The only way is to analyse Quranic words and figure out their meanings from the Quran itself. Chuck out ‘popular translations’.

Abu Hurayrah’s Wild Imagination 2


More on Abu-H’s hadith. Sometimes it’s hard to believe the kind of things which Bukhari let into his collection. It just goes to show the kind of stuff that passes for ‘islam’:

The two sheikhs mentioned that Abu Hurayra had said: “Prophet Muhammad (S) said: “The Israelites bathed nakedly. They looked at each other’s private parts. Moses bathed alone. They said: “By Allah (swt), nothing prevented Moses to bathe with us, unless he had a hernia.” Once Moses went to bathe, He put his cloths on a rock. The rock ran away with Moses’ cloths. Moses followed the rock crying: “O rock, my cloths! O rock, my cloths!” The Israelites looked at Moses private parts and said that Moses was all right. After that the rock stopped. Moses took his cloths and began to beat the rock. I swear by Allah (swt) that the rock had six or seven scars.

How did ‘the Prophet’ know about this rock? Did Allah reveal it to him perhaps? That wasn’t stated.

How did the rock ‘run away’? Did it sprout legs and run off?

Why did the rock do this? Didn’t it know that Musa was a good guy? Why didn’t do this for Firaun’s clothes instead? I thought nature was on our side?!

We need to be very critical, folks. These are matters of faith after all.

Abu Hurayrah’s Wild Imagination 1


This guy Abu Hurayrah is real scary guy. Imagine, he narrated 5374 hadith that made it into sahih books. Im writing an essay about a fatal flaw in bukhari and I came across this:

The two sheikhs mentioned a tradition that Abu Hurayra had said: “Prophet Muhammad (S) said: The angel of death came to Moses (as) and said to him: Respond to the order of your god! Moses slapped the angel of death on his eye and gouged it. The angel of death returned to Allah (swt) and said to Him: You sent me to one of Your slaves, who did not want to die. He gouged my eye. Allah (swt) restored to him his eye and said to him: Go back to My slave and say to him: If you want to live, you are to put your hand on a bull’s back and see how many hairs stick in your hand. You will live for every hair a year.”

The angel of death was SLAPPED by Musa and Musa gouged out his eyes? Lets entertain this insane notion for two seconds and ask this question:

Did Musa know who the angel of death comes from? Allah obviously. So whose will was he try to subvert? Allah’s will. What a Prophet eh?

Oh, and one small thing which Abu Hurayra and Bukhari missed out. Only the small matter of the Quran saying this:

Quran 6/61: And He is the subjugator over His servants, and He sends over you guardian-angels until, when death comes to one of you, Our messengers take him, and they do not fail

How did master Bukhari not see this? Or maybe the notion that he checked everything against the Quran is just bogus?