The Second Promise of Bani Israil


Lisa hit the nail on the head here when she mentioned the second promise to the Children of Israel in Quranology Discussions. She wrote:

I have a question regarding 17:104-111. I get the impression that God may have promised the Jews another revelation (17:104), that this revelation was eventually sent down to Muhammad (17:105-106), that Muhammad related it to the Jews (17:107), that they recognized the revelation (17:108-109), that Muhammad gave them further instructi…ons for prayer (17:110-111).17:104 We said after him to the Children of Israel: “Dwell in the land, then, when the time of the second promise comes, We will bring you all together as a mixed crowd.”

17:108 They say, “Praise be to our Lord. Truly, the promise of our Lord was fulfilled.”

Does “the promise of our Lord” (17:108) indeed refer to the “second promise” (17:104) then?

Good suggestion regarding siyam.


Anita raised a very interesting point about siyam today in Quranology Discussions. She asked ‘what does stopping eating and drinking have to do with becoming muttaqee/righteous’ (as per 2/183).  This is a very incisive question, I think.

Who are those entrusted with authority?


asked Charles in Quranology Discussions. This is referring to 4/59 and I believe it links back to 4/58 which talks about entrusting tasks to their right persons. It is after all uli AL-AMR …

Is Following the Quran Shirk?


My man Charles always asked the most thought provoking questions on Quranology. Today he asked the question in the title in Quranology.

What IS the Proper Way to Pray?


Will God not accept my prayer if I dont place my hands here or there? Well have a look at the discussion on it in Quranology!

Personally, I dont mind how I do it as long as I do it!

Did RK say to beat wives or did he disobey Allah?


Lets have a look at RK’s footnote for 4/34:

Do Not Beat Your Wife*
[4:34] The men are made responsible for the women,** and GOD has endowed them with certain qualities, and made them the bread earners. The righteous women will cheerfully accept this arrangement, since it is GOD’s commandment, and honor their husbands during their absence. If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then (you may use negative incentives like) deserting them in bed, then you may (as a last alternative) beat them. If they obey you, you are not permitted to transgress against them. GOD is Most High, Supreme.

*4:34 God prohibits wife-beating by using the best psychological approach. For example, if I don’t want you to shop at Market X, I will ask you to shop at Market Y, then at Market Z, then, as a last resort, at Market X. This will effectively stop you from shopping at Market X, without insulting you. Similarly, God provides alternatives to wife-beating; reasoning with her first, then employing certain negative incentives. Remember that the theme of this sura is defending the women’s rights and countering the prevalent oppression of women. Any interpretation of the verses of this sura must be in favor of the women. This sura’s theme is “protection of women.”
**4:34 This expression simply means that God is appointing the husband as “captain of the ship.” Marriage is like a ship, and the captain runs it after due consultation with his officers. A believing wife readily accepts God’s appointment, without mutiny..

My comment: RK the messenger needs to make up his mind. Allah did say ‘adriboo’ (which he trannslates to mean beat). RK was in no position to say God really meant to say ‘dont beat’. The messenger’s job is to convey but in this case, he chose to speculate. Oh and messenger, the word ‘husband’ isnt even there…..