Prophecy about those who reject Hadith?


(This is a Copy/Paste from Yahoo Answers before they delete it!):

Prophecy about those who reject Hadith?

Due to the increasing amount those ignorant new Muslims rejecting the orders of their Master Rassul-Allah SAWS, I’ll be quoting some hadith : I can also quote the tajreek (chain of narrations from my knowledge to prove it is authentic)The prophet SAWS said:
“Let me not find one of you reclining on his couch, when he hears something regarding me which I have commanded or forbidden and saying: We do not know. What we found in Allah’s Book we have followed.”

Ahmad, Abu Dawood and al-Haakim reported with a saheeh isnaad from al-Miqdaam that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Soon there will be a time when a man will be reclining on his couch, narrating a hadeeth from me, and he will say, ‘Between us and you is the Book of Allaah: what it says is halaal, we take as halaal, and what it says is haraam, we take as haraam.’ But listen! Whatever the Messenger of Allaah forbids is like what Allaah forbids.” (Al-Fath al-Kabeer, 3/438. Al-Tirmidhi reported it with different wording, and said that it is hasan saheeh. Sunan al-Tirmidhi bi Sharh Ibn al-‘Arabi, al-Saawi edn., 10/132).

Al-’Irbaad ibn Saariyah, may Allaah be pleased with him, reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Would any of you think, reclining on his couch, that Allaah would only describe what is forbidden in the Qur’aan? I tell you, by Allaah, that I have warned and commanded and prohibited things that are as important as what is in the Qur’aan, if not more so.” (Reported by Abu Dawud, Kitaab al-Khiraj wa’l-imaarah wa’l-fay’).

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How many people are now like this? isn’t the prophecy true? subhannallah.

This is clear warning, and my question is, are you afraid to speak the truth?

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  • you’ll find some idiots like that n here now Allahu must’an.
  • I am a qur’anist and proud. hadeeths are not accurate teachings on the prophet etc., there hadeeths were drawn up years and years after mohammed PBUH died, and are therefore not legitimate rulings.
  • The Qur’an clearly states that it is the best hadith, detailed and complete. Why do you seek to add to the revelation of Allah? Are you saying Allah lied about the Qur’an being complete and fully detailed?You guys always quote hadith to “prove” your views. I’d like to see one of you quote the Qur’an to back up your claims for a change. But it won’t happen — because the Qur’an doesn’t support the hadith. The only authorized secondary sources for religious guidance are the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus — per the Qur’an’s instructions, we are to consult the previous books if we are in doubt about what the Qur’an has revealed.

    As for your “prophecy”, here’s one from the Qur’an for you, regarding people who would reject the truthfulness and completeness of the Qur’an sent from Allah:

    Qur’an 39:23-41
    “God has sent down the best narrative, a Book that is similar, dual. The skins of those who are concerned towards their Lord shiver from it, then their skins and their hearts soften up to the remembrance of God. Such is the guidance of God; He guides with it whoever He wills. And for whoever God misguides, then none can guide him.
    As he who saves his face from the terrible retribution on the Day of Resurrection. And it will be said to the transgressors: “Taste for what you have earned.”
    Those before them have denied, and thus the retribution came to them from where they did not perceive.
    So God made them taste the humiliation in this worldly life, but the retribution in the Hereafter is far greater, if only they knew.
    And We have put forth for the people in this Qur’an from every example, that they may take heed.
    A Qur’an in Arabic, without any crookedness, that they may be righteous.
    God puts forth the example of a man who has partners that dispute with each other, and a man who has given to dealing with only one man. Are they the same? Praise be to God; most of them do not know.
    You will die, and they will die.
    Then, on the Day of Resurrection, you will quarrel at your Lord.
    Who is more wicked than he who lies about God, and denies the truth when it comes to him? Is there not in Hell an abode for the rejecters?
    And those who came with the truth, and believed in it, these are the righteous.
    They shall have what they wish at their Lord. Such is the reward for the good doers.
    So that God may cancel for them the worst that they did, and He may recompense them their reward for the best of what they used to do.
    Is God not enough for His servant? And they frighten you with others besides Him. And whoever God sends astray, then for him there will be no guide.
    And whoever God guides, then there will be none that can mislead him. Is God not Noble, with Vengeance?
    And if you ask them: “Who has created the heavens and the earth?” They will say: “God.” Say: “Do you see what you call on besides God, If God wanted any harm for me, can they alleviate His harm? Or if He wanted a mercy for me, can they hold back his mercy?” Say: “God is sufficient for me; in Him those who trust shall place their trust.”
    Say: “O my people, work according to your way, and I will work. You will come to know.”
    “To whom the humiliating retribution will come, and on whom an eternal retribution will be cast.”
    We have sent down to you the Book for the people with the truth. Then, whoever is guided is guided for himself, and whoever goes astray goes astray to his own loss. And you are not a keeper over them.”

    Source(s):

    The Revelation of Allah, the Qur’an, a complete and detailed book.
  • 6:50 Say: “I do not say to you that I possess God’s treasures, nor do I know the future, nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I merely follow what is inspired to me.” Say: “Are the blind and the seer the same? Do you not think?”7:188 Say: “I do not possess for myself any benefit or harm, except what God wills. And if I could know the future, then I would have increased my good fortune, and no harm would have come to me. I am but a warner and a bearer of good news to a people who believe.”

    11:31 “Nor do I say to you that I have the treasures of God, nor do I know the future, nor do I say that I am an angel, nor do I say to those whom your eyes look down upon that God will not grant them any good. God is more aware of what is in their souls; in such case I would be among the wicked.”

    Source(s):

    direct from Quran
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Race to the finish – reading Quran in Ramadan


I just saw a Question on Yahoo Answers

What is the most times you have completed the Quran in Ramadan?

Asalam Alaikum
I see many who complete it more then once mashaAllah. I have only been able to complete it once in the month, but this year I hope to try and complete it twice. But I don’t want to be one that reads with out taking it in, that is more important after all.

Allah knows best”

My Answer : Salaam Aleykum. I am a Quranist. I think the mindset of judging piety on how many times it is read and how fast within a given period is contrary to the teachings of the Quran. Maybe some like to be seen to be able to read it at record speed. I know there are some people who read Quran every day little by little all year round not just during Ramadan. You can look at 17:106 which mentions “gradually” and 20:114 which mentions about being “hasty” specifically with the Quran. 23:68 mentions about “pondering” . Reflecting on the Quran is mentioned here: 4:82; 47:24; and 59:21; 17:78-79 and 38:29 mentions reflecting on the book. and these verses mention reflecting on the Ayats 2:266; 30:21; 38:29; 45:13 . So I think you hit the nail on the head – it’s more important to read and understand and “take it in” than to rush through to finish it without pausing for thought.

Read articles about the Quranist identity:

This section explains who we are as an association. Since there are numerous misunderstandings that we are a sect, we will attempt to correct that with the articles below. Who are Quranists? Please read below:

1. Quranists and the term ‘Quranists’ by Farouk A. Peru

2. An Analysis of Quranist Fundamentalism by Farouk A. Peru

3. Quranism: The Metaphor of the House by Farouk A. Peru

4. Quranists: Between Reading and Interpretation by Farouk A. Peru

5. Submitters and Quranists by Asfora

6. Quranism is not a Sect ! Here is Why by Farouk A. Peru

7. Justifying the Quranism / Quranist labels by Asfora

8. Quranism and Traditionalism: Not Mutually Exclusive! by Farouk A. Peru

9. Who are the Real Sectarians? by Farouk A. Peru

10. A Quranist’s Response to the term “Hadith Rejector” by Asfora

11. “Quran Alone-ism” and Quranism by Asfora

12. Multiple Paths to Salvation by Darcus

13. The Deceptive “Just Muslim” Label by Farouk A. Peru

14. Who is a Kaafir? by Kashif Shahzada

 

Lie Guru’s Erroneous Assumption


On the same question on Yahoo Answers(If quranists were more common, would there be even worse division), there was a cheeky fellow named ‘Lie Guru’ (a mockery of the name Liphe Guru, a quranist himself) who said:

Notice how all the Islamophobes here defend and support the quranists!!!Let me teach you quranists’ duaa, they dont say like the Muslims: “May Allah be please with us”

Quranists say: “May the west be pleased with us, May america be pleased with us, May the Islamophobes be pleased with us”. They are changing the religion of Islam to please the Islamophobes.

The strange thing is, this person doesn’t know how much Islamophobes WANT Muslims to follow hadith. My answer is as follows:
LOL. What a joke! Here’s what JOCHEN KATZ, the founder of ANSWERING ISLAM wrote ‘Why TRADITIONS are MANDATORY for all Muslims’. He WANTS Muslims to follow hadith so he can bash you to bits, lol. Here’s the link: http://www.answering-islam.org/Misc/tradition.htm

Yahoo Answers: If quranists were more common would there be even worse division?


An interesting phrasing of this question, I must say. My answer (which wasn’t the best, Asfora’s was and quite rightly so) is as follows:

Dear N,

I am a quranist and like any other quranist, my views are uniquely mine. In other words, I do not share 100 percent similar views with anyone. No quranist does. But you know what, no Muslim (of ANY variety) has 100 percent similar views with each other either. Do you think by simply subscribing to a group (like Sunni or Shia or Sufi) and/or by claiming allegiance to a school of law, this makes you a non-thinking entity? Absolutely not! All Muslims, all HUMAN BEINGS think. Quranist are simply more vocal about it.

Does it mean if all Muslims became quranists, we would have 1 billion odd sects? No way! You are simply carrying a Wahabi mindset about religion. Sectarianism is for those who seek to exploit others. We are notesharers, not dispensers of religious thought.

Quranist Islam is an approach to Islam. We think Islam for ourselves under the guidance of our sole divine source, the Quran. We are an association of people who share notes. We are not a sect. Sects are born from a mindset of exclusivism. Quranists recognise multiplicities in the path to God.

Why are you so worried about uniformity of thinking? Are you not secure in the fact that what YOU believe in born from a sincere search? Build your own relationship with Allah, dont ride on someone elses. You are a person in your own right.

Is Dawah Counter Productive?


This is a question from Yahoo Answers which has since been deleted, but here is my reply

Is Dawah Counter-Productive?

my reply:

From a Quranist point of view dawah or inviting to the path of God means revealing what is in the Quran, truthfully and not concealing it with falsehood. Islam as described by the Quran appears to be quite different from Islam as described by traditional narrations. So yes it could be said that encouraging people to read the Quran for themselves is counter productive to Traditionalist Islam, though of course not counter productive to the point of Dawah which is to invite to the path of God. Unfortunately in Traditionalist Islam, any verses from the Quran too often have to be used out of context and with lots of words inserted in brackets to try to make it fit with the Traditionalist approach, and then buried under long lists of narrations (not from the Quran) which are considered to be explanations of the Quranic verses.  Though to be fair this only seems to happen once the Dawah is completed and a new convert has decided to embrace Islam, but by this point ( in theory) the new convert still has the option to decide which approach to islam they are going to take – Stick with Book A or be led away from Book A, convinced it is too holy for mere mortals to understand and directed towards the hadith collections.  It’s not really a choice a new convert is encouraged to make as discussing approaches seems to be a little on the “taboo” side. Of course no-one in their right mind would recommend shiaism if they were a sunni and vice versa.

Quranist Islam or Quranism tends to view the the Quran as its own best explanation and Quranists believe the Quran is the sole divine source of islam. Inviting to the path of God by inviting them to read the Quran in context in a language they understand is not counter-productive to the Quranist vision or counter productive to anyone seeking the Truth. I am not saying the Traditionalist approach is all bad, not at all, as it seems that many Traditionalists are turning to a more Quranist-type approach anyway, albeit often by ignoring the fact that some narrations are marked as Sahih (authentic) even though they contradict the Quran. Not everything is black and white and I think there is some kind of “zone” merging Quranism and Traditionalism too where narrations that don’t contradict the Quran or that can be reasonably backed up by an interpretation of the Quran are used and people find inspiration in such statements – ones that are positive and inspire goodness, kindness and a humble attitude, and emphasise “Tawheed” the oneness of God. I don’t see anything bad about that at all.

sources / further reading
Quran
http://www.quranists.net/2011/04/14/a-quranist%E2%80%99s-introduction-to-traditional-islam/
http://www.quranists.net/2011/04/28/quranism-and-traditionalism-not-mutually-exclusive/

What you need to know before converting to islam


There was a recent question on Yahoo Answers :

“As a woman what do I need to know about converting to being muslim?

I am currently christian and have been all my life. I’m willing and ready I just do not know were to start although I must admitt that im alittle worried about the reaction of others about my decision.”

My reply:

Salaam Aleykum – Peace be upon you! I am a muslim Convert. I would say one of the things I think people should be aware of before they convert to islam is that there are many different approaches to islam. Traditional Islam, for example, is not based solely on the Quran. I am a Quranist muslim which means I believe the Quran is the sole divine source of islam. The likelihood is, when you convert to islam, if you do, inshaaAllah (God Willing) is that you will be taught Sunni Islam (Traditional Islam, Mainstream Islam)
You might want to find out more about Hadiths and their origins, and not just their authenticity but also what authority they hold in islam not only from Traditionalist point of view but try to also find out what the Quran itself says about Hadiths. You can use an online Quran and do a search for the word “hadith”.
Unfortunately Islam is being sold as a package deal these days. To be considered a “valid” muslim you cannot accept just the Quran on its own, you must accept all the hadiths too. If you reject the hadiths, this is quite a big deal and you may find yourself made to feel “outside” the fold of Islam. There are a lot of hadiths which do not contradict the Quran and which DO have their basis in the Quran – it’s likely you will be taught these first. The problem is that the hadiths sometimes contradict each other and often either have no basis in the Quran or even in some cases contradict the Quran.
The good news is that there are many muslims including a very high percentage of converts that think ex-communication is an unfair way to treat sincere believers who also believe that the Quran is the Holy Word of God and that the hadiths, whilst a rich source of information, are not divinely inspired. Should you decide to follow a more Quranist type approach, you would be very welcome to join the Quranists Reverts and Converts Support Network on Facebook . I would recommend giving the Sunni approach a trial first though so you can have first hand experiences of the teachings of Traditional Islam. Don’t get me wrong, there is a LOT of good in Sunni islam as well as in Shia islam, and most of the followers of the Traditional kind that I have ever met are sincere friendly honest kind and good people. May God guide you (inshaaAllah – God Willing) and make your journey pleasant and rewarding. God Bless.

Source(s):

About Quranists.net

This section explains who we are as an association. Since there are numerous misunderstandings that we are a sect, we will attempt to correct that with the articles below. Who are Quranists? Please read below:

1. Quranists and the term ‘Quranists’ by Farouk A. Peru

2. An Analysis of Quranist Fundamentalism by Farouk A. Peru

3. Quranism: The Metaphor of the House by Farouk A. Peru

4. Quranists: Between Reading and Interpretation by Farouk A. Peru

5. Submitters and Quranists by Asfora

6. Quranism is not a Sect ! Here is Why by Farouk A. Peru

7. Justifying the Quranism / Quranist labels by Asfora

8. Quranism and Traditionalism: Not Mutually Exclusive! by Farouk A. Peru

9. Who are the Real Sectarians? by Farouk A. Peru

10. A Quranist’s Response to the term “Hadith Rejector” by Asfora

11. “Quran Alone-ism” and Quranism by Asfora

12. Multiple Paths to Salvation by Darcus

13. The Deceptive “Just Muslim” Label by Farouk A. Peru

14. Who is a Kaafir? by Kashif Shahzada

Marrying a Revert


Here is a question about Marrying a Revert on Yahoo Answers

This is the question:

I want to marry a ” reverted to islam ” girl ?

i am a muslim guy and i always had a dream of marrying a ” revert to islam ” girl from another culture for so many reasons , i believe that reverted are the most believer of islam , i envy them , sure iam grateful to God i was born as a muslim but i see that reverted had the chance to choose they leave there old life and pay a high cost and face alot of Obstacles in there way to become a muslim , i know its a very great feeling to choose islam and work for it , i wish i was reverted and choose islam by myself , but iam grateful to god for what iam anyway ,also as i can see from few friends its the best to have a Partner from another culture , the relationship is very very richso my question is : my dream is that i want to marry a reverted girl from different culture but it seem that it is diffcult to meet and know anyone in my country as i live already in a muslim country ” Egypt ” , i think it the time to marry now , so do i keep looking for what i want or i just stop looking and just marry a muslim girl from my country ?

also am i wronge and shallow in this thinking ? to put these rules in my searching ? or iam right to try to find what i dream of ,what i want and what i see it the best or me or what ?

what do u think ? also if u have any ideas about where i can meet reverted girl tell me ?

My reply:

Salaam Aleykum
There are thousands of Reverts and Converts to Islam. You just have to know where to look! One of the risky things though about Reverts / Converts is that they are undergoing an intense spiritual journey and learning about Quran and Islam. The danger of studying the Quran is that it highlights how much out of sync SOME OF the hadiths are with the Quran. This inevitably leads to the Revert being very wary of hadiths in general and wanting to verify their authenticity and authority. When they study the Quran, this leads to them having some insight about islam as described by the Quran itself which may appear to be VERY different from Islam taught in some Traditional circles which is often very much hadith based. So if you have your heart set on marrying a revert, you may wish to consider finding out more about the Quranist approach to islam which is one of the naturally preferred approaches for Reverts and Converts AFTER they have become disillusioned with contradictions and dogma within Traditional Islam. No offense intended. Just trying to give the best advice I can, inshaaAllah, speaking as a Quranist Revert myself. (I am already married btw) Also bear in mind possible language barriers and / or possible differences in culture, if the revert is from a different country. It may seem exotic at first but once the novelty wears off, you may find it difficult to bridge the gaps. If you meet someone, who fills the criteria of being a Revert Muslimah, be honest, sincere and realistic about your expectations of her as a future wife and find out hers about you as a future husband. Be very aware that Reverts (new ones especially) on a spiritual journey may not yet have settled into 1 closed set of defined beliefs and may still be seeking the truth and their beliefs can evolve with time. Changes of beliefs even though they still believe in the Quran and 1 God does not mean they will always conform to what YOUR personal interpretation / understanding / expectation of what Islam is. InshaaAllah you will have many very deep, philosophical and thought provoking discussions with your bride-to-be. I wish you all the best and much happiness inshaaAllah.